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  1. Rob McNeilly says:

    Jay Haley spoke eloquently saying that supervision IS therapy and so all that we know about effective therapy can translate seamlessly and simply into effective supervision.

    • darylchow says:

      hey Rob, can you point to Jay Haley’s writings on this please? Anything from his strategic therapy books or articles?
      At this point of my thinking, I don’t fully agree. I’m prepared to be entirely wrong on this.
      Perhaps iff we get to the underpinning principles of learning, perhaps that’s possible.
      Love to hear your views about this Rob. I greatly respect the work that you do.


      • Rob McNeilly says:

        It was an invited address at the 2000 Ericksonian conference in Phoenix. There’s a transcript in one of his books – not sure which one. If you give me your email I can send you a link to the audio. It’s a gem. I like it and find myself agreeing with him.
        A client has a problem with a partner, their life … and the therapy begins. A supervisee has a problem with a client … and the supervision begins. I might be overlooking something but I’ve applied this principle in supervising and it seems to be useful

        • darylchow says:

          Thanks so much Rob!
          Jay Hayley is one of my heroes (his book on Erickson, Uncommon Therapy is excellent), so would love to hear more from his later talks…

          • Rob McNeilly says:

            Just sent a dropbox link, Daryl. Let’s know what you think. I found it clear and to the point.

          • darylchow says:

            Hi Rob! I’ve finished listening to it. Brilliant. A true homage to Erickson.

            I love the part when he said that most of us assume responsibility for taking patients’ money but we do not assume responsibility for their change.

  2. Rob McNeilly says:

    I’m a simple person and like what Haley proposes.

    A person comes to us because of a problem they have with another person or their life or responses, and the therapy begins.

    A therapist come for supervision because of a problem they have with a client, and the supervision can begin.

    We can help an athlete without needing to be athletic ourselves. We don’t need to be an expert in the field of the client or therapist’s dilemma. We can attend to their suffering, form a trusting relationship, emirate expectancy … and the magick begins … in therapy and in supervision .

    It fits for me …

  3. Elena says:

    Hi Daryl & Rob,

    Would it be possible to get this link of Jay Haley addressing the 2000 Erickson Conference you speak of? Would love to hear it.

    Thank you,

    Elena Parsons, LMHC, LPC

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