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  1. Nick Drury says:

    There are a few here I’m going to question Daryl.
    “3. We think that we can get better by engaging in deliberate practice within particular schools of psychotherapy.” Well I can see benefits from seeing what others are doing – but I’m not sure that rules out developing a particular school further..

    “5. We conflate learning and performing.” The Dreyfus model of skill acquisition does show that intuitive reflexes, or pattern recognition reflexes, become more prominent with mastery – I’m curious how you might be teasing these words apart – perhaps you could start with showing the role of conceptual knowledge, performance knowledge, and perceptual knowledge in the development of skills??

    “7. We watch master therapists in action and try to emulate them.” You don’t we ever learn from mimicry?

    “10. We think client feedback is going to help us better as a therapist.” I hope you are not saying its not a component – a more cautious rendering of what I think you intended was “we think client feedback, on its own, is going to help us get better as a therapist” – yes?

    All I have time for tonight …

  2. Cindy Hansen says:

    Nick, I think Daryl is deliberately being provactive to engage us in this dialogue.

    • darylchow says:

      Thanks Cindy. Actually, I have no intentions to be provocative. But you are right. I’m hoping to engage in a dialogue… and to connect with our existing collective knowledge and be willing to challenge some of our individual assumptions.

  3. Ben says:

    Coming from the trainee’s view, I’ve noticed that it helps to *start* with one school of thought. CBT especially because it’s well connected to many other EBTs.

    The structured nature of cbt provides scaffolding that trainees can use to learn the ropes. Of course, feel free to improvise afterwards but know how it’s like to create/deliver a coherent treatment plan.

  4. Eeuwe says:

    I think what Daryl might be referring to with some of these ones:
    – “3. We think that we can get better by engaging in deliberate practice within particular schools of psychotherapy.”

    Is the assumption that if we spend our time responding to feedback, practicing, and striving to improve our performance in specific fields of therapy… selling negative reinforcement cycles as a rationale for escalating anxiety, or finding exceptions to clients’ descriptions of their experience, or taking clients through a progressive relaxation exercise etc. that we become more effective over time.

    – “5. We conflate learning and performing.”
    Is the assumption that experience in doing therapy leads to improving skill in therapy over time. He might be referring to findings where for instance, chess players’ time spent playing chess is unrelated (if even slightly inversely related) to their proficiency in chess over time…

    – “We watch master therapists in action and try to emulate them.”
    Is the assumption that if I watch Marsha Lineham sitting in front of her fire and validating (level 5) a client, that I will achieve what she achieves when I validate my client just like her… at level 5, honest 🙂

  5. Jeffrey Von Glahn says:

    #13 As stated: “We think there is a right way to do therapy.” Is that wording the same as: “We think there is a best way to do therapy.”

    • darylchow says:

      Hi Jeffrey, Good to hear from you! I was referring to our beliefs that there is a right way of doing therapy, that is, if we adhere to a certain protocol. For now, I think that’s different from “best way” of doing therapy.
      I will be elaborating on each of these shortly, so that it would make more sense! Thanks again, Daryl.

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